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Argument 2- Pro Life Shea: Every American citizen is born with natural rights and these rights should also be applied to the fetus. Being Pro Life we believe in the right to privacy and that the government should stay out of personal rights, until those rights begin to interfere with the safety of another. Having an abortion takes away the fetus' right to life as well as their right to reach their full potential. This is one situation where a citizens personal rights interfere with the rights of another, this gives the government permission to intervene in the situation. Catt P. Timeline Topic talked about Roe vs. Wade, which was a case in 1973 that argued whether a woman has a constitutional right to an abortion. Wade was the defendant in this case and was strongly against abortions. In our ideal society we side with Wade, and agree with his viewpoint that abortions are not only wrong, but are murder. On Jill's timeline topic question she wrote that "[the heartbeat legislation would allow a] woman to get an abortion within the first eight weeks of pregnancy, so if they got an abortion, the fetus would feel no pain". It shouldn't matter whether a heartbeat is detected or not because it is still a child that will eventually obtain a heartbeat, unless they are aborted. Unborn children grow in the womb everyday, Mary Spaulding Balch, a State Legislative Director of the National Right to Life, discussed the many bodily functions that are developed during the beginning weeks of pregnancy like brain waves in the 6th week, a heartbeat less than three weeks in, and pain receptors that show up during weeks 4 and 5. When a needle injects an unborn baby, stress hormones are released just as when adults feel pain. In the book __Warriors Don't Cry__ by Melba Patillo Beals, a group of black children integrate a high school for the first time ever. The black children are not treated respectfully by the white adults with children going to the school. Therefore, the government had to call on AirForce one solders to walk them through their halls. The way the blacks were treated by whites can compare to the way a fetus is treated(when referring to an abortion). The constitution states that any human shall be treated equally, however the blacks in this time period were not treated the same as whites, and the fetus' today are not treated the same way a grown human is. How is there a difference between the two? They both are humans and therefore should be treated equally as our constitution states. A human is a human, and all humans should be given the same equal rights as others.

Works Cited: Timeline Topic: Roe vs Wade by Catt P. book, //Warriors Don't Cry// by Melba Palillos Beals Jill's Timeline topic Pro Life CQ Researcher- Mary Spaulding Balch, State Legislative Director of the National Right to Life

__Argument 1__, college admittance should not be based on race (reverse discrimination): Stacy:

In our American society, we will enforce fair treatment of all races, genders, religions, and nationalities, so that minority groups and whites will feel equal, with neither the whites nor the minorities receiving special treatment, or lack of, due to their race. One place where this idea will be in effect is in Collages starting from the admittance of the students and continuing on until they graduate; the students will be admitted based on their scholastic achievement rather than the fact that they may be considered a minority or in white’s cases, a majority. This idea is necessary because of cases like this one about a great student named Allen Bakke, whose story is described in Bobby Bruner’s Timeline article: California v. Bakke, who was denied the right to attend a collage due to the fact that the only available spots left were those being set aside for people of minorities, which is unconstitutional because a major factor to why those people were admitted is due to their race, not their work ethic. Allen argued that this denial violated his Fourteenth Amendment Equal Protection right because, even though his MACT and GPA overpass most of the people accepted who fall into the minority admittance category, his admittance was denied based purely on racial reasons. Also, according to the Civil Rights Act of 1964, “discrimination against blacks and women, including racial segregation” (hand out titled //Legal Rights// from a class discussion) is outlawed in the United States. Based on what is being defined in this act, Collages should not be allowed to show racial preferences to minority groups by setting aside spots strictly meant for people considered a minority. Finally, this idea of racial discrimination can further be seen in the book //The Absolutely True Diary of a Part-Time Indian// by Sherman Alexie, paraphrased by Drew, Jacob, Ben, Emma, and Max, where a young Indian boy named Junior who was “ quickly judged and stereotyped when he [arrived] as his new school because of the long-term bias against Indians”, and right away this boy’s race set him aside from the other students rather than his abilities, which no one would know about because he was not given a fair chance to display them. In our American Society, we will make sure to end racial bias in schools, including collage admittance resumes, and will turn our focus onto to any child, whether black, Mexican, or Indian, who has the drive and desire to learn and to work hard at what they do.

Works Cited:

Timeline Article: California v. Bakke by Bobby Bruner.

Book, //The Absolutely True Diary of a Part-Time Indian// by Sherman Alexie, paraphrased by Drew, Jacob, Ben, Emma, and Max.

Civil Rights Act of 1964: hand out titled //Legal Rights// from a class discussion.

Bobby: In our society, all Americans will have the same chance as others in education, work, and in everyday life. In my timeline topic, i wrote about a court case call Bakke v. University of California. This case was about a white male named Allan Bakke who was declined education in a position in medical school in California, but was declined because of his race. The school set out 16 of 100 spots for minorities and even though he had higher MACT scores and a higher GPA than most people who were accepted, he was declined from the school. This quota was illegal for the school to do. Bakke sued for his 14th Amendment right which is equal protection under the law. In our society we believe that no one no matter Black, White, Hispanic, Asian, or Indian, should have special rights, but should be seen for how hard they work. Another law that backs my argument, is not only the 14th Amendment but also "Title VI of the Civil Rights act of 1964, [which] prohibits the University of California from initiating a special admissions programs for minorities" (Clark). This quote backs up my argument by showing that the law also doesn't support reverse discrimination, or discrimination in general. In the book //The Absolutely True Diary of a Part-Time Indian,// Junior just wants to go to school and finds himself being made fun of and being called names because of his race. This just shows that discrimination is not only in work, or in the process of going to school but in school and in society as a whole.

Work Cited: My timeline topic

The Bakke Decision by Ramsey Clark

Book, //The Absolutely True Diary of a Part-Time Indian// by Sherman Alexie, paraphrased by Drew, Jacob, Ben, Emma, and Max.

__Argument 2__, the unborn should have the sames rights as those already born: Sarah: In my ideal American society, I see a society where everyone is equal, no matter if they are born or not. On Jill's timeline topic question she wrote that "[The Heartbeat Legislation would allow a] woman to get an abortion within the first 8 weeks of pregnancy, so if they got an abortion, the fetus would feel no pain.". It should not matter whether a heartbeat is detected or not, the fetus will obtain a heartbeat eventually, unless they are aborted. It is believed that a fetus cannot feel pain before the 24th week. However, In an article on CQresearcher by Jeanne Monnahan, she wrote that it has been proven by Bjorn Mercer, a neuroscientist, that a fetus can feel pain before the 24th week. It was thought that it required a fully developed cortex to feel pain, but Bjorn Mercer says that it does not require a fully developed cortex. In fact some doctors believe that a fetus at 20-30 weeks feels more pain than a born child does (Monnahan). In the book __Warriors Don't Cry__ by Melba Patillo Beals, a group of black children integrate a high school for the first time ever. The black children are not treated respectfully by the white adults with children going to the school. Therefore, the government had to call on AirForce one solders to walk them through their halls. They way the blacks were treated by whites can compare to the way a fetus is treated(when referring to an abortion). The constitution states that any human shall be treated equally, however the blacks in this time period were not treated the same as whites, and the fetus' today are not treated the same way a grown human is. How is there a difference between the two? They both are humans and therefore should be treated the same as our constitution states. A human is a human, all humans should be given the same equal rights as all others. My ideal society would treat everyone equally, no matter where they are from, their age, gender, or race.

Works Cited:

Jill Waltz, Abortion Pro, buchholtzsidoramericanstudies.wikispaces.com, October 27, 2011

Monohan, Jeanne. "Abortion Debates." //CQresearcher//. N.p., 10 Sept. 2010. Web. 25 Oct. 2011. .

Shea: POST HERE __Argument 3__, undocumented workers do not have the same rights as U.S. citizens:

Taylor: Undocumented workers definitely do not have the same rights as American citizens, seeing that they are in this country illegally and probably cannot communicate with more than half of the U.S. (legal) population. Surprisingly undocumented workers have many of the same rights that American citizens possess, with a few exceptions. “While illegal aliens do not enjoy all of the rights granted to citizens by the Constitution, specifically the rights to vote or possess firearms, these rights can also be denied to U.S. citizens convicted of felonies. In final analysis, the courts have ruled that, while they are within the borders of the United States, illegal aliens are granted the same fundamental, undeniable constitutional rights granted to all Americans" (Robert Longley). I find this unfair, they aren’t considered U.S. citizens’, they are basically cheating in life, they should have to go through the proper routine to get the proper papers. We are very hypocritical, we don’t want them in our country yet we basically depend on their cheap labor and cheap wages to get those jobs we don’t want to do, done. “Some sectors are more dependent than others. According to a 2009 study by the Pew Hispanic Center, 40% of the nation's brickmasons, 37% of drywall installers, 28% of dishwashers, 27% of maids and housekeepers, and 21% of parking-lot attendants are undocumented. In California, those percentages are likely to be higher. A 2006 survey by the U.S. Department of Labor estimates that a majority of California's farmworkers have no papers.(Gregory Rodrigues.” In the book //The Bean Trees// by Barbara Kingslover, an auto repair shop houses illegal immigrants whome work in the city of which the place isAAAAAA We can’t seem to make up our minds on how we view undocumented workers, they help get the job done, but at the same time they are illegal.

Rodriguez, Gregory. "Undocumented workers: essential but unwanted." //Los Angeles// //Times//. N.p., 11 Oct. 2010. Web. 25 Oct. 2011. .